Red Scarlet X - First Review & Impressions Part I
Background
I am currently a filmmaker and camera rental house co-owner (with my wife) of Tonaci Digital. To date, in the course of four years, Tonaci Digital has provided cameras and services for over 22 "Shot On Red" films. I personally have worked in the field on over 16 feature films in various capacities: as second Unit Director, Camera Operator, Digital Imaging Technician, and Red Camera Supervisor. Some notable projects for us this year include: "
Big Sur" (Polish Brothers shooting Red Epic), "
The Banshee Chapter" (our first 3d Epic project produced by Zachary Quinto), "
Innocence Blood" (Red Epic), and our first Red Epic feature overseas, "
Blood Letter." (if you haven't seen the Blood Letter
trailer, it will blow your tits off)
1st Scarlet
On 11/18/2011, I was very fortunate to be the
first to take delivery of the Red Scarlet X. 3 days later, I flew to Vietnam to begin prepping the Red Scarlet X for likely the first ever feature film in the world to begin principal photography with the Red Scarlet. On 11/30/2011, shooting began for "Cuoi Ngay Keo Lo aka Love Puzzle." By day 5 of the feature, I had to fly back to the US on December 4th to teach for Reducation, leaving our Red Scarlet X in the good hands of our camera team in Vietnam. As of this writing, they just finished Day 13 and I am happy to report that the Red Scarlet-X has been running non-stop flawlessly. You have to keep in mind that in Vietnam, the budgets are too low to afford backup cameras. Fortunately, "knock on wood," no Red camera has ever failed on us in the past 3 years working in Vietnam on 20 feature films (which btw were all theatrically released) and over one hundred commercials.
Reliability
I saw the humorous C300 review by Jonathan Yi, and saw his response to someone in his comments section saying, "Enjoy your broken camera." Notably, Philip Bloom had problems with his Red Epic so the natural thought for some may be…are Red Cameras that bad? Here is my take on it. It is sorta like those social worker news stories (loose analogy I know, hehe..but my mom is a social worker so bear with me). When one social worker is involved in a case where the child dies, everyone hears about it, which is not necessarily a bad thing. We need to be aware of these things when they happen…but the other side to the story…the reality is that there are thousands of workers doing great service everyday that you don't hear about. Same goes for Red Cameras. There are literally thousands and thousands of Red Cameras working day in and day out without any problems. This is not to say there are never any problems with the cameras…sure there is. This is the nature of electronic devices. Canon 5ds go bad too, right? (My friend sent his in for repair last week.) What I can tell you is that Red staff have gone above and beyond to help me whenever I have questions or issues. I'm positive that thousands of owners will share similar experiences with me on that. As I mentioned above, a good bulk of my work is supporting feature films in Vietnam where there are very little resources. If Red cameras were unreliable, I would have zero chance of ever sustaining a rental business and shooting movies overseas. It's not like I can drive down to Hollywood to pickup a backup camera. If my Red Epics gave me grief, I definitely would not have ordered the Scarlets. As of this writing today, I am currently managing five Red Epics and two Red Scarlets on seven different jobs all happening at once. This would be hard to do if they were "broken" cameras.
Longevity
I firmly believe in trying to always stay ahead. I have been shooting 4k for four years now with the Red One and 5k this year with the Epic. Sony is entering the 4k game and before you know it, so will Canon, Panasonic, Arri…you name it! Sony just announced their 4k consumer projector and now more and more theaters are being equipped with 4k digital projectors. I had the pleasure of seeing Barco's latest 4k projector and it is amazing. Youtube supports 4k and before you know it, the internet bandwidth and computers will be fast enough to handle it. As of right now, the 4k on Youtube chokes on my current browser and internet connection, but this will certainly change! Perhaps I am thinking too far ahead, but with Sony jumping into the game and heck, even Canon announcing a 4k camera… it is going to happen. I like the idea that my material will be up to spec for the next resolution standard. I can't stomach watching ANYTHING in standard def and I have a feeling I will probably feel the same way about 1080p HD being uprezzed on my future 4K display. One thing I have to wonder is how long the life will be on the C300 before Canon releases another model? With the Scarlet, I feel good knowing that there will be a Dragon sensor upgrade option down the road and anything I shoot today with Scarlet, will have longevity over the course of the next several years after 4k becomes mainstream.
Special thanks to Chanh Phuong Films for giving us permission to post some of the very first images and footage from "Cuoi Ngay Keo Lo aka Love Puzzle". Please stay tuned for PART II of my review which will cover menu navigation, accessory configuration and much more!
Red Scarlet X - Exterior Test Shot
Raw R3d file here:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3236260/rawfile.zip
Red Scarlet X - Frame Grab 1 From Feature Film
Red Scarlet X - Frame Grab 2 From Feature Film
Red Scarlet X - Frame Grab 3 From Feature Film
Red Scarlet X - Frame Grab 4 From Feature Film
Red Scarlet X Feature Film Video Footage
Hi Tonaci,
FANTASTIC part one. Thank you.
I’m waiting for my scarlet to ship with my first feature coming up and after reading around the traps, have been fearing a back up cam is an absolute MUST. (Sure always a good idea if you can) but a difficult proposition when your working a micro budget in regional Australia as I am. I have been doing what I can to get some back up. (The REDuser community has been fantastic in this regard.) But now I also feel that I can reasonably and not just naively hope that I may be able to get through my shoot without shutting it down while I ship my cam back to the states.
I had read that “broken camera” comment you referenced, and have been warned by others besides, and I may be unlucky still of course, I understand that. But the sharing of your considerable and positive personal hands on experience means a lot to someone in my position. I believe in expecting the best and planning for the worst. And I don’t want to stick my head in the sand, but Scarlet also happens to represent an incredibly exciting tool for me as a film maker – at the price point I have been waiting on for years. So I would really prefer to focus on the positives (and learning) a little more for now, and deal with the problems if and when they occur. It’s been a bit of a gloomy and scary affair so far in my opinion. Which took me a bit aback at first I confess. But much like Mr Soderbergh, I want to move forward with a real conviction I can get through as I feel RED really is the perfect tool for me. And you have certainly helped. Very glad you got the first Scarlet!
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Thanks again for sharing your work and experiences Tonaci,
Best of luck with everything.
Kind Regards,
Lliam
Hi Liam,
Thanks so much for sharing your thoughts and taking the time to drop by. I think prep is the key to success. Just make sure you spend enough time prepping and I think you will be able to avoid 99% of the issues. more thoughts later as i have to run..but i wanted to quickly say..thanks!!
Tonaci
Great stuff, Tonaci! Thank you for your perspective! I cannot wait until we receive our camera too.
You are gonna love it Nick! =)
Thank Tonaci! It both makes it harder to wait for this camera, and happy that it exists and is proven!
Proven! I believe so. =)
Great read, Tonaci. Thanks for posting for us who are waiting for our cameras to arrive. The images shot for this film are beautiful.
Thanks Lorenzo!
Thanks for posting this Tonaci! This footage is really indisputable evidence that the Scarlet is more than capable of kicking ass on a feature film shoot. Just looks beautiful.
And thanks for being at REDucation, and sharing your knowledge and experience! I’m so happy I was able to train with you before receiving my Scarlet… which will be coming soon… Talk to you soon!
All the Best,
Richard
Richard!! it was an absolutely blast having you on my team. Great times indeed!!!! Nothing better than shooting 4k/5k and getting to watch that mind blowing footage on a GIANT screen with a 4k projector. =)
Can’t wait to see what you do with your Scarlet.
Hey Tonaci. Great stuff you’ve got going on! Just wondering what lenses are being used on this Scarlet feature. The images seem tack sharp!
BTW, it was great meeting you at Reducation back in May.
Yo Ryan!! whats up bro! Thanks for stopping by. Zeiss Super Speeds Mark II lenses. Did you order a Scarlet?
Now thats what im talking about……..
Hi Tonaci, did you used before Canon lenses on Scarlet? If yes so what are the results? Does it make sence to use not PL lenses on scarlet?
The RED footage looks awesome. Based on the footage I have seen on Canon EOS-C300, the resolution does not look very great. More like 5D mk II added with a Mosaic Engineering antimoire filter and not like a camera that is supposed to cost 20000. The images look surprisingly similar than I am getting out of my 5D to be sincere. Scarlet shows a difference on every scene I have seen. The amount of detail makes it a very desirable camera. I love a very sharp look and I watch the footage from less than 1 meter on a 30 inch 2560×1600 monitor and on that my Canon looks barely acceptable for my personal use.
Based on examples what I have seen on web, C300 is a good camera indeed and even I could use one if I had one, but I would not pay 20000 for it ever. If compared to the price of the Scarlet, the C300 should be about 4000-5000 for a complete package because it simply seems to be a competitor for Panasonic AF100 rather than for RED. 20000 usd for that is simply insane and putting 45000 dollar (manual) lenses on that camera is even more insane. If I was doing a commercial production (I am not at the moment, so that’s why I have the 5D mk II) it would be rather easy choice to choose a RED Scarlet with Canon EF-mount.
Thanks for posting this. I think this review is helpful for many considering this camera!
Hi Karoliina, Thanks for taking the time to write your thoughts. I definitely agree with you. =)
Hi Tonaci
Great footage man and thanks for sharing..
Would love if you could upload a short 10sec clip, R3D file for the bike scene?
Im thinking of ordering my Scarlet X and I’m trying to get as much raw footage as possible to practice importing into different programs and grading etc.
Would love and appreciate the help
Kind Regards
Daniel
^^
agreed !
Definitely! I will upload some stills for your consumption very soon. =)
thanks man…a 10 sec video r3d file if you can?
have a great new years
I’m interested in the Scarlet more as a still camera – have you got any 4k or 5k still grabs you’d care to share?
thank you for the small video of The Scarlet and the Epic.. this is a lovely film. We have watch this for plenty of times. perhaps five or 6 times..If your read my comment you will agree with my.. right?
Hey SO somehow I missed this blog post! Great write up and awesome that your getting such extensive use out of your Scarlet right off the bat! Awesome lighting in these frame grabs as well, you can really see how much data processing is happening at such a small price tag. Keep up the great work bud!